Play on a RTX4090 in 3Dvision DX9 and Geo11 DX9 Mode REVIEW

[ZeGURU69]

Hello,

I upgraded to an RTX4090 a short time ago and wanted to share my thoughts on how 3D Vision games work on this graphics card. There aren't that many testimonials on the forum.

My config is: Intel 12700KF / RTX4090 / 32 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz

I use an Optoma UHD42 which is Frame Sequential compatible in 1080p120 (but also tab, sbs and framepacking). I used frame sequential for dx9 tests and tab when it didn't work in dx9.

I used the 531.61 driver (studio driver version). For the 3D Vision drivers I went through 3Dfix manager to install the 3DVISION 425.31 drivers. This results in breaking the Nvidia control panel (save does not work on the 3D Vision part and everything is slow). The DCH fix proposed on the forum no longer works (I had already managed to make it work at one time but there nothing to do). On the other hand, this has no impact on the operation of 3D and all the options of the 3DVISION NVidia panel are present in 3DFixManager (which must therefore be installed).

Update : I'm now using the latest 546.17 drivers (Game Ready Driver) and haven't seen any particular problems.

Dx9 Games :

No problem to report, I just had to launch a game via 3dfix manager to unlock 3D (it didn't launch in 3D on steam) and then everything starts in 3D via steam. There are always problems related to the version of windows but I was able to launch almost all the DX9 games. Note that saving convergence no longer works with nvidia shortcuts.

Some games do not stereosize, the solution on this link, viewtopic.php?t=23574 To put on the default profile / the game profile / see create a profile for the game.

Another problem often encountered in dx9 games is that they do not want to go to 120Hz. The solution is here, https://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/02/c ... hertz.html

With these two tips, almost all DX9 games are functional. So there is no more problem running DX9 games on a 4090 than on a 2080 Ti. They run exactly the same (not better but not worse).

Dx11 Games :

To make geo11 work in dx9 mode, I just put the 3 dlls + d3dxdm with the nvidia_dx9 option (by modifying force_stereo to 2 in dx3d)

At first I focused on the latest geo11 version (0.6.90) released on the forum which was a mistake because it does not work very well in DX9 mode.

The version I've used the most is 0.6.56 which works for about 90% of games on UE4! Considering everything I've read about dx9 mode, I didn't think so many games were going to work. From what I could see, all the games work perfectly with a better level of fluidity than on a 2080 Ti. The Witcher 3 with the latest update is running in full detail at 60 fps in Novigrad

The only game where I don't reach constant 60 fps is The Medium which ran at 30 fps when the screen was split (we're closer to 50 with the 4090).

It is preferable to display the FPS counter which allows you to know directly if the 3D has started (oddly Msi afterburner causes a lot of FPS to be lost when it is activated...). Generally, if the counter is at 120, there is a problem with the exclusive fullscreen mode essential for 3D display (but geo11's dx9 mode works).

On Unreal games be careful to deactivate the dlss options otherwise the 3D is only rendered in one eye.

You really have to insist that certain games go into fullscreen, for unity games you have to do alt+enter two times to put the game in windowed and back in fullscreen and use 2 to 3 times alt+T so that 3D is coming. For UE4 games, go to the graphics menu to switch between full screen and windowed mode and use Alt+T if there is no stereo. Some games require 3D to be enabled when started with ALT+T

Unity games work pretty well but you need several versions of geo11 to make them work. I tested them mainly on geo11 0.6.24 because I was limited to 25 fps on the other versions (I had activated VSync synchronization in Nvidia, a priori putting the default option fixes the problem but not always. ..)

Unity games are very dark (not all but many). The solution is to change the color settings in the Nvidia panel and set the gamma to +2.2. It's not perfect but it's still not bad!

Vulkan Games :

Vulkan games do not work with the last version of Vk3dvision. I only tested Doom Eternal (which worked before) but I have a return under windows in 3DVISION mode. According to Helifax, this is a problem with the DX9 path in the Nvidia driver. Hope this is easily fixable.

But version VK3Dvision 4.19.22 works ! On the other hand, I realized that if I didn't superimpose MSI afterburner, one eye flashes (nothing serious but it's weird). You can download it via this link, https://github.com/helifax/Vk3DVision-Public/releases

Update : The Vk3dvision drivers are working again, so you can use the latest version (4.22.16).

DSR :

Since drivers 460.79, DSR no longer works with 3Dvision, so it's no longer possible to use this technology for RTX4xxx. If you try to use it, you'll only see a quarter of the image. Despite my best efforts, I haven't found a way to use it with 3Dvision.

However, it works well with TAB (or SBS) mode.

I focused on the games already installed on my computer and so there are a lot of small games and I did not necessarily test all the big games:

Games running 3D DX9 with 06.6.56 :

- A Juggler's Tale
- A tale of paper
- Apsuvol
- Batman The Telltale Serie
- Batman Arkham Asylum, City and Origin work on DX9
- Batman Arkham Knight (Tested on 0.6.90 without bug texture the game launches in the background and if I click on it during the logos, it crashes in dx9 mode. But if I wait until it reaches the main menu, the game runs normally or add -nologo on Steam)
- Biomutant
- blair witch
- Blue Fire
- Borderland 3 (delete line "include = ShaderFixes\help.ini" in d3dx.ini)
- Chernobylite
- Conarium
- Control (with 0.6.78, convergence locked but modifiable on dx3dm.ini with value dm_min_convergence_absolute_override)
- Conway
- Dakar 18
- Darksider Warmastered edition (work only on 0.6.58, dark need gamma at 2.2 on nvidia panel, no 3D or convergence blocked with other version)
- Darksiders Genesis
- Day Dream Prologue
- Divinity Original Sin 2
- Doom eternal (work with Vk3dvision 4.19.22)
- DreamChapter (dont work with 0.6.56 but work with 0.6.90)
- Dreamscaper
- Find Yourself
- Gamedec
- Genesis Black
- Ghost Runner
- God of war (original fix from masterotaku)
- Gothic Playable
- Gylt
- Hello Neighbor
- Hot Wheels Unleached (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- Hot Wheels Unleached 2 (disable EAC to play with 3D fix)
- Layer of fear 2
- Light Cat (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- Little Nightmare
- Little Nightmare 2
- Maize
- Medium
- Miasma Chronique
- Never again
- Nier Automata (work only with 0.6.10)
- Paradise Lost
- Psychonauts 2
- Pumpkin Jack
- Rad Rodgers
- Rage 2 (with VK3dvision 4.19.19)
- Redout
- Remothered - Tormented Fathers (work with 0.6.24, with 0.6.56 limited to 25 fps)
- Shadow of war (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- Spyro trilogy
- Submerged
- Submerged Hidden Depth
- System Shock Demo
- The Ascent
- The End
- The Forest (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- The Outer World Standard Edition (The Spacer Choice Edition doesn't work on dx11 (crash))
- The Witcher 3 (with 0.6.24 otherwize limited fps at 25 same with vsync disable)
- The Witcher 3 with fix from masterotaku
- Trail out
- Trek To Yomi
- Unravel
- Valley
- Weird West
- What Remains of Edith Finch

Unity game with 0.6.24 and need more gamma (+2.2 in nvidia panel)

- Solasta
- Blackbook
- Mauden
- Donjon of Naheulbeuk
- The Slater
- Black Mirror
- Gris
- Madison
- Bendy
- My friend pedro (no need extra light)
- Syberia 3 (don't work with 0.6.24 but work with 0.6.90)
- Through the wood (don't work with 0.6.24 but work with 0.6.15)
- The Signifier (only work with 0.6.107)
- Tail of Iron (only work with 0.6.58, no need extra light)

Work but texture flashing (decor elements disappear depending on the position of the camera). These games are playable despite everything and the problem is also present without geo11 but less pronounced

- The Entropy Center (same with tab, defect also present in 3Dvision but less pronounced)
- Sherlok Holmes Chap 1 (same with tab, work normally without geo11)
- Atomic Heart (same with tab, don't know in regular 3dvision) - no longer works with latest update

Work with 3D bug

- Far Changing Tides (work only with 0.6.56 problem reflect water not present on regular 3Dvision and on tab with 0.6.109)
- Starwar Fallen order (work only with older version geo11 (crash with newer), fps not reach 60, momentary white flash on the whole screen and a lot of 3D bug ...)
- Echo (white/black flash)
- Grounded (work with 0.6.90 but some menus have white flashes)

3D render only one eye :

- Succubus (Same with tab, I suspect a hidden dlss option)

Caps to 30 fps :

- Metro Exodus (work at 60 with tab, disabling vsync helps but game doesn't reach 60 fps)
- Truberbrook (Unity game, only work with 0.6.58, limited to 25 fps, no need extra light)

Crash :

- Sackboy (crash with message "DX11 feature level 10.0 is required to run engine",work in tab)
- hitman (work with tab)
- Mirror Edge Catalyst (work with tab)
- Resident Evil 3 (work with tab)
- Supraland (don't work with tab)
- Supraland - six inches under (don't work with tab)
- Sekiro (black screen with counter fps, don't work with tab)
- Rise Son of Rome (don't work with tab)
- Quake 2 RTX (don't work with tab)
- Need for speed Payback (no 3D with most version or crash with 58/109 work with tab)
- Need for speed The run (no 3D with most version or crash with 15/58/104 work with tab)
- Lord of the ring Gollum (crash with message "DX11 feature level 10.0 is required to run engine",don't work in tab)
- The Callisto Protocol (crash, work with tab DSR 4x)

Convergence locked :

- Mass Effect Legendary (same with tab)

No 3D :

- Far Lone Sails (no 3D with tab)
- Titantfall 2 (no 3D with tab)
- Halo Masterchief
- The layer of fear (work on tab only on 0.6.15, seem not set to fullscreen)
- Lightmatter (seem not set to fullscreen, work with tab)

In the end, I'm quite satisfied with the 3D Vision with a 4090. Out of 80 games tested, 67 launch in 3D (only 7 less than in tab/dx11) and only one problem is due to the dx9 mode (metro exodus)

If we count the dx9 games that I tested, more than 90% of the games that I launched run on this configuration and they run better (for dx11 games)! Almost all games fixed with the unity and UE universal fixes work.

I hope this little guide for 3Dvision games on new graphics cards can be useful to you and I hope that I will have feedback that will make it possible to make even more games work with geo11 DX9. In any case, a big thank you to the developers of this driver !!!

[3DNovice]

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[ZeGURU69]

Hi 3DNovice,

Unfortunately, I don't remember ever getting a game to work in 3Dvision with fullscreen optimizations disabled (maybe it happened but a long time ago). I just tested and it doesn't work on both games which seem to refuse to go full screen.

If I understand correctly, the modification of Kai on the dll is active on version 0.6.38? None of the games I tested work specifically on this version. I will have to do some tests again.

Finally, most Unity games running in 3D work on geo11 dx9 (with this dark screen problem) but your information may still be useful.

[3DNovice]

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[ZeGURU69]

Yes, I think I misunderstood

I will investigate this further with the links you gave and test on both games which seem not to work due to a fullscreen issue.

However, I have never seen a release note for the geo11 drivers. I just downloaded v0.6.56 from helixmod and the release note only mentions the version number. For 0.6.38 you mention that it is enabled in d3dx.ini, you have to make a modification in the ini ?

[Lysander]

There's a thread about this here, too viewtopic.php?t=26316&sid=81a5787168c77 ... 3&start=40 I'll link there to this post.

"The version I've used the most is 0.6.56 which works for about 90% of games on UE4! Considering everything I've read about dx9 mode, I didn't think so many games were going to work. From what I could see, all the games work perfectly with a better level of fluidity than on a 2080 Ti. The Witcher 3 with the latest update is running in full detail at 60 fps in Novigrad" - I see you tested at 1080, I'd like to see the performance at 1440...

In my tests, yes, most UE4 games worked in DX9 mode I just wanted some verification that the 4090 can overcome even the DX9 performance loss and render most games at 60 with max settings but at 1440.

[ZeGURU69]

All games tested at 1080p. I haven't tested the dx9 mode much on my 2080 Ti but one of the rare games tested - Hot Wheels Unleached - ran at 60 fps on my 2080 Ti but with nasty jerks which completely disappeared on the 4090

Apart from The Medium, I would say that almost all the games I tested run at a constant 60 fps (with the usual jerks due to 3D mode). I also have another exception "My friend pedro" which in 3dvision mode (without geo11 or with) had framerate drops at 30-40 fps which remained on the 4090 (but I think it comes from the game).

[Lysander]

Yeah, I just re-read your original post and saw 1080 and updated my previous post but you beat me to it

So The Medium still has drops at 1080, interesting.

[3DNovice]

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[3DNovice]

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[Dazzawill]

Thankyou very much for your extensive testing and reporting, its much appreciated, in fact some of the best info on here in a long time. Did you use the u4 universal 9.12 fix for your testing and if so, did you change the Geo 11 files to 0.6.56. as you claim they are the best for dx9 output? By default 9.12 comes packaged with 0.6.78 and was wondering if you changed it for improved results.

[ZeGURU69]

Hi Dassawill,

I tested most EU games on 9.12 but some games were tested on older versions because everything was already installed (and I don't feel like this affects how geo11 works). I didn't use the Losti launcher for the geo11 games, I just copied the 0.6.56 dlls into the game directory and changed the force_stereo to 2 in d3dx.ini. Then just launch the game in a normal way. Out of all EU games tested with geo11 in dx9 mode, there is only one (Sackboy) that doesn't work against geo11 dx11/tab mode.

Maybe UE games works well on v0.6.78 but since I focused on 0.6.56, I haven't had a chance to test. I had started my tests on 0.6.90 which did not work almost any game in dx9 mode on UE.

[ZeGURU69]

There's a thread about this here, too viewtopic.php?t=26316&sid=81a5787168c77 ... 3&start=40 I'll link there to this post.

"The version I've used the most is 0.6.56 which works for about 90% of games on UE4! Considering everything I've read about dx9 mode, I didn't think so many games were going to work. From what I could see, all the games work perfectly with a better level of fluidity than on a 2080 Ti. The Witcher 3 with the latest update is running in full detail at 60 fps in Novigrad" - I see you tested at 1080, I'd like to see the performance at 1440...

In my tests, yes, most UE4 games worked in DX9 mode I just wanted some verification that the 4090 can overcome even the DX9 performance loss and render most games at 60 with max settings but at 1440.

I think the 4090 can run most games at 1440p in 3Dvision with 60 fps but without having tested it, I can't say for sure. I would try with the DSR but I seem to have read that it doesn't work with geo11

[ZeGURU69]

I updated the original post to report that Vulkan games work (at least Doom Eternal but I think the others should work too). The latest version no longer works with 3Dvision, so you have to use 4.19.22

[Dazzawill]

Thanks for your reply. Ive found, performance wise, the dx9 output on Vulkan games has way better performance than geo-11 dx9 output.

[3DNovice]

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[ZeGURU69]

Thanks for your reply. Ive found, performance wise, the dx9 output on Vulkan games has way better performance than geo-11 dx9 output.

The difference in performance is not noticeable on a 4090. You can't really compare the two modes since you can't use geo11 on Vulkan games.

I didn't test Detroit Become Human on the 4090 but on a 2080 Ti, I had areas where I couldn't reach 60 fps.

[russellk]

@ZeGURU69 Thanks for spending your time testing and posting this. Thanks to the others for adding more information as well. It's the most useful single post I've read here for a long time.

[aofelix]

Thanks mate.
I have a 4090 and enjoying it.

How slow does it make NVIDIa control panel?
I use triple LG OLED C6s.. so I have to enable NVIDIA surround a lot and disable it when not in use. Is there any work around that I can use 3D without making NCP super glitchy?

[ZeGURU69]

@ZeGURU69 Thanks for spending your time testing and posting this. Thanks to the others for adding more information as well. It's the most useful single post I've read here for a long time.

Thanks for your message, I tried to be as complete as possible and I will try to update the post as I test the games and find solutions

Thanks mate.
I have a 4090 and enjoying it.

How slow does it make NVIDIa control panel?
I use triple LG OLED C6s.. so I have to enable NVIDIA surround a lot and disable it when not in use. Is there any work around that I can use 3D without making NCP super glitchy?

There is a solution explained in this post, viewtopic.php?p=188162&hilit=dch#p188162 I had managed to make it work a while ago but not this time. Maybe I did something wrong, I don't know.

If you manage to do it, let us know !

[aofelix]

thanks. does this mean you cant play newer games as you are now on the older driver?

[ZeGURU69]

With a 4090 it is not possible to use an old driver. I use the 531.61 drivers and to set the 3Dvision part I use 3dfix manager instead of the Nvidia control panel. I have indicated all this on the original post.

[aofelix]

With a 4090 it is not possible to use an old driver. I use the 531.61 drivers and to set the 3Dvision part I use 3dfix manager instead of the Nvidia control panel. I have indicated all this on the original post.

Thanks. I tried this. It didn't detect my JVC N5 projector as a passive 3D display sadly. It showed it as '3D Vision discover'. Wasn't able to enable 3D for it to trigger the output.

[ZeGURU69]

I am not sure if the JVC N5 is frame sequencial compatible (for 3Dvision) but you can already test in tab/sbs with geo11, it seems that the VP is compatible with these modes according to the documentation.

[3DNovice]

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[UnityBeing]

Hello,

I upgraded to an RTX4090 a short time ago and wanted to share my thoughts on how 3D Vision games work on this graphics card. There aren't that many testimonials on the forum.

My config is: Intel 12700KF / RTX4090 / 32 GB DDR4 3600 Mhz

I use an Optoma UHD42 which is Frame Sequential compatible in 1080p120 (but also tab, sbs and framepacking). I used frame sequential for dx9 tests and tab when it didn't work in dx9.

I used the 531.61 driver (studio driver version). For the 3D Vision drivers I went through 3Dfix manager to install the 3DVISION 425.31 drivers. This results in breaking the Nvidia control panel (save does not work on the 3D Vision part and everything is slow). The DCH fix proposed on the forum no longer works (I had already managed to make it work at one time but there nothing to do). On the other hand, this has no impact on the operation of 3D and all the options of the 3DVISION NVidia panel are present in 3DFixManager (which must therefore be installed).

Dx9 Games :

No problem to report, I just had to launch a game via 3dfix manager to unlock 3D (it didn't launch in 3D on steam) and then everything starts in 3D via steam. There are always problems related to the version of windows but I was able to launch almost all the DX9 games. Note that saving convergence no longer works with nvidia shortcuts.

Some games do not stereosize, the solution on this link, viewtopic.php?t=23574 To put on the default profile / the game profile / see create a profile for the game.

Another problem often encountered in dx9 games is that they do not want to go to 120Hz. The solution is here, https://helixmod.blogspot.com/2013/02/c ... hertz.html

With these two tips, almost all DX9 games are functional. So there is no more problem running DX9 games on a 4090 than on a 2080 Ti. They run exactly the same (not better but not worse).

Dx11 Games :

To make geo11 work in dx9 mode, I just put the 3 dlls + d3dxdm with the nvidia_dx9 option (by modifying force_stereo to 2 in dx3d)

At first I focused on the latest geo11 version (0.6.90) released on the forum which was a mistake because it does not work very well in DX9 mode.

The version I've used the most is 0.6.56 which works for about 90% of games on UE4! Considering everything I've read about dx9 mode, I didn't think so many games were going to work. From what I could see, all the games work perfectly with a better level of fluidity than on a 2080 Ti. The Witcher 3 with the latest update is running in full detail at 60 fps in Novigrad

The only game where I don't reach constant 60 fps is The Medium which ran at 30 fps when the screen was split (we're closer to 50 with the 4090).

It is preferable to display the FPS counter which allows you to know directly if the 3D has started (oddly Msi afterburner causes a lot of FPS to be lost when it is activated...). Generally, if the counter is at 120, there is a problem with the exclusive fullscreen mode essential for 3D display (but geo11's dx9 mode works).

On Unreal games be careful to deactivate the dlss options otherwise the 3D is only rendered in one eye.

You really have to insist that certain games go into fullscreen, for unity games you have to do alt+enter two times to put the game in windowed and back in fullscreen and use 2 to 3 times alt+T so that 3D is coming. For UE4 games, go to the graphics menu to switch between full screen and windowed mode and use Alt+T if there is no stereo. Some games require 3D to be enabled when started with ALT+T

Unity games work pretty well but you need several versions of geo11 to make them work. I tested them mainly on geo11 0.6.24 because I was limited to 25 fps on the other versions (I had activated VSync synchronization in Nvidia, a priori putting the default option fixes the problem but not always. ..)

Unity games are very dark (not all but many). The solution is to change the color settings in the Nvidia panel and set the gamma to +2.2. It's not perfect but it's still not bad!

Vulkan Games :

Vulkan games do not work with the last version of Vk3dvision. I only tested Doom Eternal (which worked before) but I have a return under windows in 3DVISION mode. According to Helifax, this is a problem with the DX9 path in the Nvidia driver. Hope this is easily fixable.

But version VK3Dvision 4.19.22 works ! On the other hand, I realized that if I didn't superimpose MSI afterburner, one eye flashes (nothing serious but it's weird). You can download it via this link, https://github.com/helifax/Vk3DVision-Public/releases

I focused on the games already installed on my computer and so there are a lot of small games and I did not necessarily test all the big games:

Games running 3D DX9 with 06.6.56 :

- Submerged
- Submerged Hidden Depth
- The Forest (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- Shadow of war (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- Hot Wheels Unleached (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- Echo
- Light Cat (work with 0.6.90, no test other version)
- Apsuvol
- Gamedec
- Layer of fear 2
- Trek To Yomi
- Atomic Heart
- Weird West
- Psychonauts 2
- Ghost Runner
- blair witch
- Medium
- Paradise Lost
- DreamChapter (dont work with 0.6.56 but work with 0.6.90)
- Nier Automata (work only with 0.6.10)
- Maize
- Gothic Playable
- God of war (original fix from masterotaku)
- Genesis Black
- Find Yourself
- The End
- Dreamscaper
- Day Dream Prologue
- Darksiders Genesis
- Dakar 18
- Spyro trilogy
- The Ascent
- Pumpkin Jack
- Chernobylite
- System Shock Demo
- Blue Fire
- Rad Rodgers
- Divinity Original Sin 2
- Conway
- The Witcher 3 (with 0.6.24 otherwize limited fps at 25 same with vsync disable)
- The Witcher 3 with fix from masterotaku
- Conarium
- A tale of paper
- Biomutant
- Darksider Warmastered edition (work only on 0.6.58, dark need gamma at 2.2 on nvidia panel, no 3D or convergence blocked with other version)
- Doom eternal (work with Vk3dvision 4.19.22)
- Remothered - Tormented Fathers (work with 0.6.24, with 0.6.56 limited to 25 fps)
- Little Nightmare
- Hello Neighbor
- Rage 2 (with VK3dvision 4.19.19)
- Control (with 0.6.78, convergence locked but modifiable on dx3dm.ini with value dm_min_convergence_absolute_override)


Unity game with 0.6.24 and need more gamma (+2.2 in nvidia panel)

- Solasta
- Blackbook
- Mauden
- Donjon of Naheulbeuk
- The Slater
- Black Mirror
- Gris
- Madison
- Bendy
- My friend pedro (no need extra light)
- Syberia 3 (don't work with 0.6.24 but work with 0.6.90)
- Through the wood (don't work with 0.6.24 but work with 0.6.15)
- The Signifier (only work with 0.6.107)
- Tail of Iron (only work with 0.6.58, no need extra light)

Work but texture flashing (decor elements disappear depending on the position of the camera). These games are playable despite everything and the problem is also present without geo11 but less pronounced

- The Entropy Center (same with tab, defect also present in 3Dvision but less pronounced)
- Sherlok Holmes Chap 1 (same with tab, work normally without geo11)
- Atomic Heart (same with tab, don't know in regular 3dvision)

Work with 3D bug

- Far Changing Tides (work only with 0.6.56 problem reflect water not present on regular 3Dvision and on tab with 0.6.109)
- Starwar Fallen order (work only with older version geo11 (crash with newer), fps not reach 60, momentary white flash on the whole screen and a lot of 3D bug ...)

3D render only one eye :

- Succubus (Same with tab, I suspect a hidden dlss option)

Caps to 30 fps :

- Metro Exodus (work at 60 with tab, disabling vsync helps but game doesn't reach 60 fps)
- Truberbrook (Unity game, only work with 0.6.58, limited to 25 fps, no need extra light)

Crash :

- Sackboy (crash with message "DX11 feature level 10.0 is required to run engine",work in tab)
- hitman (work with tab)
- Mirror Edge Catalyst (work with tab)
- Resident Evil 3 (work with tab)
- Supraland (don't work with tab)
- Supraland - six inches under (don't work with tab)
- borderland 3 (don't work with tab)
- Sekiro (black screen with counter fps, don't work with tab)
- Rise Son of Rome (don't work with tab)
- Quake 2 RTX (don't work with tab)
- Need for speed Payback (no 3D with most version or crash with 58/109)
- Need for speed The run (no 3D with most version or crash with 15/58/104)

Convergence locked :

- Mass Effect Legendary (same with tab)

No 3D :

- Far Lone Sails (no 3D with tab)
- Titantfall 2 (no 3D with tab)
- Halo Masterchief
- The layer of fear (work on tab only on 0.6.15, seem not set to fullscreen)
- Lightmatter (seem not set to fullscreen, work with tab)

In the end, I'm quite satisfied with the 3D Vision with a 4090. Out of 80 games tested, 67 launch in 3D (only 7 less than in tab/dx11) and only one problem is due to the dx9 mode (metro exodus)

If we count the dx9 games that I tested, more than 90% of the games that I launched run on this configuration and they run better (for dx11 games)! Almost all games fixed with the unity and UE universal fixes work.

I hope this little guide for 3Dvision games on new graphics cards can be useful to you and I hope that I will have feedback that will make it possible to make even more games work with geo11 DX9. In any case, a big thank you to the developers of this driver !!!

Hi all,

Feeling really low, my sister is in hospital and my pc got dropped by FedEx on its way to fnac lab for maintenance.

Fnac will be replacing my gpu (Msi 2080ti x trio 6k points in superposition 8k) with a 4070ti ASUS tuf (6500k points in superposition 8k). Case replacement too.

What are my options with the yucky 40 series? Is 3D vision lost me I.e. powerdvd 14 pictures movies?

Is playing system shock 1 remake with losti fix lost me?

What games can I play in 3D?

Please help great community, I got until Monday to reply.

P.S. System Shock remake will work?

[ZeGURU69]

You've got the answer in the post, the majority of 3D games run on RTX4xxx and the System Shock demo works too. The final game should therefore work (at least I hope so).

Well, some games won't run in 3D with dx9 mode, but I hope a new version of geo11 will be available soon with more functional games.

It's a pretty good deal to upgrade from a 2080 Ti to a 4070 Ti, which is equivalent to a 3090 Ti !

[UnityBeing]

You've got the answer in the post, the majority of 3D games run on RTX4xxx and the System Shock demo works too. The final game should therefore work (at least I hope so).

Well, some games won't run in 3D with dx9 mode, but I hope a new version of geo11 will be available soon with more functional games.

It's a pretty good deal to upgrade from a 2080 Ti to a 4070 Ti, which is equivalent to a 3090 Ti !

Thank you for replying guru. Happy Weekend.

[ZeGURU69]

I've tested a few games with the frosbite engine (the Dice engine that runs Need for Speed, Dragon Age, Mass Effect ...) and they all crash when the game goes into full-screen mode. They work (at least the ones I've tested) in tab mode.

[UnityBeing]

You've got the answer in the post, the majority of 3D games run on RTX4xxx and the System Shock demo works too. The final game should therefore work (at least I hope so).

Well, some games won't run in 3D with dx9 mode, but I hope a new version of geo11 will be available soon with more functional games.

It's a pretty good deal to upgrade from a 2080 Ti to a 4070 Ti, which is equivalent to a 3090 Ti !

Thank you for replying guru. Happy Weekend.

Got discord? Add me please UnityBeing#9350 cause I’ll need a bit of help and got a few questions, getting pc today yay.

[UnityBeing]

Hi ZeGURU,

I got my new gpu and can see powerdvd 14 pictures in 3D. I installed latest studio drivers and then afterwards 3D vision drivers via 3DFM. First game I tried with your steps is System Shock Remake and it doesn't work - I rechecked my steps. I tried adding the game in 3DFM but no luck and not sure how it really works. Could you confirm that System Shock Remake works with Losti's official system shock demo fix and your geo11 preferred version with modifications?

Thank you

[UnityBeing]

Ok gonna try everything again, installed 531.61-desktop-win10-win11-64bit-international-nsd-dch-whql that u are using, will get back to u all.

[UnityBeing]

Great, you are a smart person dear ZeGURU, thank u. The 531.61 drivers must be installed, then install 3DFM 3D drivers. I tried SystemShock2020_3D-Vision-Ready-Fix_V1.0_Losti with geo-11+v0.6.56 and it worked in 3D System Shock Remake. It has issues, I'll try your other fixes and keep updating and bumping your thread until I got all sorted out. Thank you again.

[UnityBeing]

I've tested a few games with the frosbite engine (the Dice engine that runs Need for Speed, Dragon Age, Mass Effect ...) and they all crash when the game goes into full-screen mode. They work (at least the ones I've tested) in tab mode.

Hi ZeGURU,

I'm trying to get Days Gone to work with 40 series - so far latest and oldest fixes don't work, or the solution you provided with geo11. Could you help me to get this to work or a no go for Days Gone? Please help.

[aofelix]

I've tested a few games with the frosbite engine (the Dice engine that runs Need for Speed, Dragon Age, Mass Effect ...) and they all crash when the game goes into full-screen mode. They work (at least the ones I've tested) in tab mode.

Hi ZeGURU,

I'm trying to get Days Gone to work with 40 series - so far latest and oldest fixes don't work, or the solution you provided with geo11. Could you help me to get this to work or a no go for Days Gone? Please help.

Shouldn't Geo-11 work regardless of driver version?

[UnityBeing]

Spec Ops The line work with dx9 mode in geo11, glad it works on 40 series with studio drivers. Shadows must be very low tho. I deleted days gone and gta v. Still ongoing in testing to see what works and doesn't.

[UnityBeing]

Batman Arkham City GOTY works on my 4070ti Tuf OC with geo-11+v0.6.56 and with the settings on screenshot. I see no issues, the performance is fast but too soon to say.

[UnityBeing]

Arkham Knight works with geo-11+v0.6.56 in my 4070ti Tuf OC but there are issues with shadow or something, not sure yet, it doesn't look optimal. I'll play it 4sure with what I get. I report back if I find anything more.

[BazzaLB]

Arkham Knight works with geo-11+v0.6.56 in my 4070ti Tuf OC but there are issues with shadow or something, not sure yet, it doesn't look optimal. I'll play it 4sure with what I get. I report back if I find anything more.

You need at least geo11 v0.6.90 for Arkahm knight. There was an issue with super low res textures kicking in after a few minutes play. This was fixed in v0.6.90. Anything lower than that is a waste of time playing with Arkham Knight.

[UnityBeing]

Arkham Knight works with geo-11+v0.6.56 in my 4070ti Tuf OC but there are issues with shadow or something, not sure yet, it doesn't look optimal. I'll play it 4sure with what I get. I report back if I find anything more.

You need at least geo11 v0.6.90 for Arkahm knight. There was an issue with super low res textures kicking in after a few minutes play. This was fixed in v0.6.90. Anything lower than that is a waste of time playing with Arkham Knight.

6.90 doesn't let 3D kick in on my 4070ti tuf oc. No point. Thanks for feedback.