1080p 60 3D

[aofelix]

Hi, is there anyway to get 1080p 60 from my setup?

I won an RTX 2080 HTPC, a JVC N5 projector which does 3D and a LG OLED C6.

[3DNovice]

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[aofelix]

Isn't the C6 4K?

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There's also the recently introduced Geo-11, which now has interlaced output.
https://helixmod.blogspot.com/2022/06/a ... river.html
viewtopic.php?t=26264

No idea about the JVC, you have to try it yourself.

Yup, C6 is 4K. My JVC N5 is 4K too. Both 60hz displays.

Thank you mate. I'm really new to 3D and a bit thick. What does interlaced mean?

I managed to get 3D working via the hacked drivers and it outputs 1080p/24p or 720p/60. I have no idea how to get 4K/60 in 3D or even 1080p/60.

Any videos or guides which go into more detail?

[whyme466]

Use your C6 in 4K 3D mode (top/bottom format, NOT side by side mode), and you will never talk about 1080p again. However, 4K gaming requires at least 2080Ti. Please review first link that 3DNovice provided again - that is the best guidance available for EDID override and actual TV settings (see my posting). Also note that new geo-11 code, which must be added to any helixmod.blogspot fix, improves hardware performance and enables use of 3XXX GPUs.

[3DNovice]

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[3DNovice]

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[aofelix]

Use your C6 in 4K 3D mode (top/bottom format, NOT side by side mode), and you will never talk about 1080p again. However, 4K gaming requires at least 2080Ti. Please review first link that 3DNovice provided again - that is the best guidance available for EDID override and actual TV settings (see my posting). Also note that new geo-11 code, which must be added to any helixmod.blogspot fix, improves hardware performance and enables use of 3XXX GPUs.

Thank you mate. Could you please to me a guide or step by step simple break down of what I need to do to make this happen? I'm SOO excited to try this! I do only have a 2080 so maybe I might need to do some resolution scaling. How long would it take to set it all up?

[whyme466]

From DugomFirst’s great list (see prior link), you need joker18’s 4K EDID override file (use Device Manager to override display settings), and EyeSwapper app to swap displayed eyes. For initial setup under Windows 10, you will need to override signature verification, also mentioned in DugomFirst’s list. Be sure to setup TV first, using the link I provide, also in prior link. When finished, you can play any 3D Vision game in normal mode, with EDID mod directly enabling 4K interlaced 3D video.

If you do not want to use an EDID override, you can simply modify every game’s d3dx.ini file to uncomment the include line, and select the appropriate mode (top/bottom or reversed top/bottom) for 3dvision2sbs.ini. Use your TV’s remote to enable/disable 3D.

[aofelix]

From DugomFirst’s great list (see prior link), you need joker18’s 4K EDID override file (use Device Manager to override display settings), and EyeSwapper app to swap displayed eyes. For initial setup under Windows 10, you will need to override signature verification, also mentioned in DugomFirst’s list. Be sure to setup TV first, using the link I provide, also in prior link. When finished, you can play any 3D Vision game in normal mode, with EDID mod directly enabling 4K interlaced 3D video.

If you do not want to use an EDID override, you can simply modify every game’s d3dx.ini file to uncomment the include line, and select the appropriate mode (top/bottom or reversed top/bottom) for 3dvision2sbs.ini. Use your TV’s remote to enable/disable 3D.

Thank you mate. Is there any way to do this with a JVC projector btw? Any youtube tutorials on this? It sounds crazy complex to me! (but I'm a bit dumb)

[whyme466]

Sorry, I have described the minimum number of steps for getting incredible 3D via C6. Properly adjusting the C6 is necessary, for example, because one of the TV’s OLED settings causes periodic uncontrolled eye swapping if left in factory default setting. Others like 3DNovice would need to help you with projector questions.

[aofelix]

Sorry, I have described the minimum number of steps for getting incredible 3D via C6. Properly adjusting the C6 is necessary, for example, because one of the TV’s OLED settings causes periodic uncontrolled eye swapping if left in factory default setting. Others like 3DNovice would need to help you with projector questions.

Thank you. Will I require a 3D vision emitter? Or can I just use the passive 3D oled glasses which I get with the C6?
Will I require to be on a specific driver or can I update to the latest and use Geo-11?

Sorry for all the questions. Maybe I should join the discord as it might be a bit easier.

[whyme466]

3D Vision (active) emitter will NOT work with C6 - use passive glasses supplied with TV. See below for drivers I use. I primarily use EDID/425.31 for most games, and use geo-11(with TAB format)/3080Ti for VERY small number of games where I need higher performance, like God of War.

[aofelix]

3D Vision (active) emitter will NOT work with C6 - use passive glasses supplied with TV. See below for drivers I use. I primarily use EDID/425.31 for most games, and use geo-11(with TAB format)/3080Ti for VERY small number of games where I need higher performance, like God of War.

Thank you mate. Where below??
Perfect what I wanted to hear as I was keen on using the passive glasses included in the set.
I'm wondering if I can pony up for a 4090 for geo-11 VR based gameson a triple monitor C6 setup? Guessing I'll need that or to down-res?

I have a 2080 and wondering wheter I try to grab a 2080ti on ebay or go for a 3XXX or 4XXX GPU

[whyme466]

Below refers to signature area of post (setup description text).

I suggest you start testing with your 2080 NOW, with one or both C6s, to see what you think of your performance, and gain experience with downscaling (if desired) and multi-display management. I cannot help with downscaling advice, since I use full 3840x2160 Desktop resolution for gaming. I believe that you will eventually need a 3080Ti for your triple C6 setup.

[aofelix]

Below refers to signature area of post (setup description text).

I suggest you start testing with your 2080 NOW, with one or both C6s, to see what you think of your performance, and gain experience with downscaling (if desired) and multi-display management. I cannot help with downscaling advice, since I use full 3840x2160 Desktop resolution for gaming. I believe that you will eventually need a 3080Ti for your triple C6 setup.

Thank you. Thanks to your advice, I got to see 4K 3D today and WOWWWW! Insanely stunning.

Can a 3080ti (or maybe 4090) play all the games? Issue I'm running into is compatability. I can't get my head around how do I enable 3D if there is no 3D vision driver for the new firmwares ?

[whyme466]

3XXX and 4XXX GPUs require geo-11 version of 3D game fixes, and changes to every game fix to select TAB (no EDID override). 2080Ti with EDID override has the most compatibility, but for no more than one C6.

If your PC case has enough slots (and power supply), you could install both 2080Ti (for single center C6), and 3XXX or 4XXX for 3 C6s. You can use Device Manager to also enable/disable the desired GPUs.

[aofelix]

3XXX and 4XXX GPUs require geo-11 version of 3D game fixes, and changes to every game fix to select TAB (no EDID override). 2080Ti with EDID override has the most compatibility, but for no more than one C6.

If your PC case has enough slots (and power supply), you could install both 2080Ti (for single center C6), and 3XXX or 4XXX for 3 C6s. You can use Device Manager to also enable/disable the desired GPUs.

Thank you mate. Whats TAB?
I'm thinking of trying to play with Geo-11. Do I have to reverse the EDID override if want to use it ? I really want to see God of war in 3D!

[3DNovice]

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[whyme466]

For C6 and E6, TAB is still probably the best mode to use for geo-11. Note that, even with EDID installed, setting geo-11 in direct interlaced mode still requires the 3D button on the TV's remote to be used to activate (or disable) 3D, and interlaced mode is NOT an option (only TAB and SBS). 3D activates and disables automatically when using EDID override with original 3D Vision fixes, and normal 3D Vision mode.

[aofelix]

For C6 and E6, TAB is still probably the best mode to use for geo-11. Note that, even with EDID installed, setting geo-11 in direct interlaced mode still requires the 3D button on the TV's remote to be used to activate (or disable) 3D, and interlaced mode is NOT an option (only TAB and SBS). 3D activates and disables automatically when using EDID override with original 3D Vision fixes, and normal 3D Vision mode.

Thank you. Used TAB and it worked phenomenally well.

[Tullebob]

From DugomFirst’s great list (see prior link), you need joker18’s 4K EDID override file (use Device Manager to override display settings), and EyeSwapper app to swap displayed eyes. For initial setup under Windows 10, you will need to override signature verification, also mentioned in DugomFirst’s list. Be sure to setup TV first, using the link I provide, also in prior link. When finished, you can play any 3D Vision game in normal mode, with EDID mod directly enabling 4K interlaced 3D video.

If you do not want to use an EDID override, you can simply modify every game’s d3dx.ini file to uncomment the include line, and select the appropriate mode (top/bottom or reversed top/bottom) for 3dvision2sbs.ini. Use your TV’s remote to enable/disable 3D.

Thank you mate. Is there any way to do this with a JVC projector btw? Any youtube tutorials on this? It sounds crazy complex to me! (but I'm a bit dumb)

Hi dude.

DJ-RK provided me with this guide some time ago with respect to the Optima UH42;

"DJ-RK wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 2:59 am
I don't have the UHD50X, but I do have the UHD50, and can confirm 3D at 1080P @ 120hz/60FPS is possible and looks very nice. I'm pretty sure the UHD50X will be no different because nearly every Optoma projector (that I'm aware of) can run 3D in some form or another, and also with the UHD50X being an upgrade of the UHD50 I can't imagine they would have removed it.

Previously we needed to install a EDID hack to spoof our projectors as another display device to be able to use 3D Vision, but with some recent changes to 3DFM that is made a lot easier. All you need to do now is set up a display profile in 3DFM for the projector with the 3D mode set as 3DVision / CRT, and just use 3DFM to launch your 3D games and it will take care of the rest, which is great because it helps preserve all the features of your projector which an EDID hack used to strip away.

Fortunately since we're running 3DVision we use the same pyramid and glasses. Not sure if you can use DLP glasses, if you prefer them. I know back in the day when I used an EDID hack for my old projector I couldn't use the DLP glasses for 3DVision, and I suspect that's still the case, but I"m not 100% because I haven't tried (nor do I intend to since I mostly prefer using my 3DVision glasses anyways).

You're welcome! "

I can confirm that this does indeed work like butter on toast for the Optima projector. 1080p/60 all the way in 3d vision.

I have since gotten the JVC NZ8. So far, I have not gotten this to work for the JVC. The strange thing is that the projector DOES beam out a 3d image in 1080p/60, AND the 3d vision emitter lights up as normal, with all 3d vision functions seem to be working with the projected image (adjust depth/convergence etc). The problem that I am getting, however, is that the 3d vision glasses only activate (i.e., power is on and it is visible shading in the glasses so it is clear that they have activated), but the glasses do not show 3d. I only tried this for the first time yesterday, so I have not done any more testing. So far the theory is that the JVC is just not compatible with this, as the precise same procedure works fine with the Optoma. (but why in the hell then does the JVC actually cast a 1080p/60 image?) The JVC does not list that it supports frame sequential 3d mode, only frame packing. It would be so insanely sweet to have 3d vision on this JVC projector. Anyone on this formum that has gotten 3d vision up and running on a JVC (of any type/model)? - any tips would be appreciated.