Red Dead Redemption 2 (11/5/19)

Post by **Shift-E** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:14 am

So Rockstar finally announced the inevitable, RDR2 will come out on PC November 5th. I am personally not a big GTA fan, but I loved RDR's setting and avoided the sequel on console because wanted to make sure the first time I play it will be in glorious 3D. I can only hope...

1) it has native 3D support built in

Pretty unlikely, after Nvidia announced dropping support, but you never know. GTAV & Max Payne 3 did have it.

2) it has a DX11 option, and we still have 3D working AND it is fixable and not blocked by any dumb cheat software.

Already have set aside my donation money

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Today, we're proud to announce that Red Dead Redemption 2 is coming to PC on November 5th, with special bonuses available to players who pre-purchase through the Rockstar Games Launcher starting October 9th. We also want to say thank you to the millions of people who have already downloaded the Rockstar Games Launcher and received their free copy of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

For those yet to download the Rockstar Games Launcher, be sure to download by Tuesday October 8th to get Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas for free.

Read on for more details about the long-awaited launch of Red Dead Redemption 2 for PC and stay tuned for more information to come next week.

The first game in the Red Dead Redemption series to be featured on the PC platform, Red Dead Redemption 2 for PC features a range of graphical and technical enhancements for increased immersion along with new Bounty Hunting Missions, Gang Hideouts, Weapons and more.

Red Dead Redemption 2 for PC also includes free access to the shared living world of Red Dead Online featuring all previously released improvements and the latest content updates for the complete online experience including Frontier Pursuits and the specialist Roles of Bounty Hunter, Trader and Collector for players to progress through and earn unique rewards.

Pre-purchases for Red Dead Redemption 2 for PC begin at 11AM ET on October 9th exclusively on the Rockstar Games Launcher through October 22nd, with a limited time offer during this period of two free Rockstar Games PC titles from the following:

Grand Theft Auto III
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Bully: Scholarship Edition
L.A. Noire: The Complete Edition
Max Payne 3: The Complete Edition
Pre-purchases made on the Rockstar Games Launcher also include free upgrades to the Premium Editions of Red Dead Redemption 2, with both the Special Edition and Ultimate Edition discounted by $20 each.

Further pre-purchase bonuses via the Rockstar Games Launcher include:

Outlaw Survival Kit for Story Mode
War Horse for Story Mode
Treasure Map for Story Mode
Cash Bonus for Story Mode
50 Gold Bars for Red Dead Online

Red Dead Redemption 2 for PC will also be available to pre-order at the Epic Games store, Greenman Gaming, the Humble Store, GameStop and additional digital retailers starting October 23rd with a pre-order bonus of 25 Gold Bars for Red Dead Online. Red Dead Redemption 2 for PC will also be available to purchase on Steam this December.

Red Dead Redemption 2 is currently available on PlayStation 4 and Xbox One systems and will also be available this November as a launch title for Google Stadia.

Check back to the Rockstar Newswire on October 9th for the first screenshots, system specifications and additional details.

Post by **skyrimer** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:21 am

Didn't know that, great news indeed.

Post by **costiq** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 9:42 am

https://twitter.com/cj_costiq/status/11 ... 5809133568

Post by **DJ-RK** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:25 am

Awesome news. Money is tight while I'm waiting on work (been over a month already now), but if I can swing it I'll pick this up on release and work on a fix for it (if needed & possible).

Post by **Skawen** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:22 pm

DJ-RK wrote:Awesome news. Money is tight while I'm waiting on work (been over a month already now), but if I can swing it I'll pick this up on release and work on a fix for it (if needed & possible).

Amazing news! This will be the greatest game for this year.

Post by **Chtiblue** » Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:59 pm

It made my day !

Hope fully it's DX11 and if fixable it wil be the game of the year and the following years 8)

Just a damn thought to nvidia fuckers, if they didn't drop 3Dvision support, RD2 would have been 3D ready at launch

Post by **schwing** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:19 am

The OP's information comes from the game page and we'll have to wait till Wednesday for whether DX11 is listed in the specs. The "newswire" that will mention the specs is probably here. Also I checked the Rockstar Games Launcher and it doesn't have RDR2 on it yet.

Post by **Flowbee_603** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:23 am

DJ-RK wrote:Awesome news. Money is tight while I'm waiting on work (been over a month already now), but if I can swing it I'll pick this up on release and work on a fix for it (if needed & possible).

That is great news!

Post by **thebigdogma** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:50 am

Sounds like dx11 support is part of the plan.

https://www.techradar.com/news/red-dead ... n-expected

Post by **Necropants** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:02 pm

I might be wrong but it seems like Microsoft are the only ones that have been going exclusive dx12.
Hmm I am on the fence with this game. I didn't think the first one was very good and alot of the original fans haven't liked it due to how slow and sim like they have made it.

Ultimately for me I guess is if it will be on steam or not, since I'm boycotting epic timed exclusives. (good way to save money too.)

Hopefully Rockstar come through

Post by **schwing** » Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:46 pm

Steam in December.

Post by **Shift-E** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:46 pm

PC specs, screenshots, and preorder details released:

https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/ ... ia-the-Roc

Happy to see HDR included on PC version. Seeing how the steam version will most likely just launch the Rockstar launcher like GTAV does, I'll just get it on Rockstar and pick up all the free upgrades, games, and bonuses.

Post by **schwing** » Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:15 pm

I checked their games launcher. It mentions Windows 10 1803 as the recommended version, but doesn't mention which DirectX version.

Post by **Skawen** » Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:30 am

Hope it will be DX 11 because in 2d I can't play even such a great game.

Post by **bo3bber** » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:21 pm

Shift-E wrote:PC specs, screenshots, and preorder details released:

https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/ ... ia-the-Roc

Happy to see HDR included on PC version. Seeing how the steam version will most likely just launch the Rockstar launcher like GTAV does, I'll just get it on Rockstar and pick up all the free upgrades, games, and bonuses.

I'd discourage everyone to avoid the R* launcher, because R* can't be trusted.

To my endless dismay, I bought GTA 5 directly from their store long ago, and they don't do support of any form. Locked out of the game at this point in time, I need my key to get a new download. Response- zero. As in, they did not respond to my support request at all. You might recall my posting about their pathetic support during earlier GTA 5 time, when I quoted War and Peace to their support robots.

So yeah, fsck R* and their shitty support. You don't own it from them apparently, and they can decide whether to drop support any time.

(I figured out a bootleg way of getting the downloader to activate a backed up version of GTA5 on my drive)

Post by **Shift-E** » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:43 am

Official PC 4K/60 Trailer...I hope I can run this close to 1440/60 in 3D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXvQ1nK4oxk

Post by **Blacksmith60** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:30 am

Just imagine that trailer in 1440p 3D makes me shiver, fingers crossed for DX11 !!!

Post by **skyrimer** » Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:18 am

I'm praying our shader hacker gods that they can get to fix this game, I'd be mindblowing to get it to work in 3d.

Post by **Shift-E** » Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:04 pm

PSA: The pre-order deal from rockstar with the 2 free games, free edition upgrade, bonus missions etc. expires October 22.

Starting October 23 green man gaming and the other digital retailers will start selling pre-orders. And then in December it will be available on Steam.

I was going to wait for green man gaming to see what kind of deals they were offering, but decided I couldn’t pass on the extra story missions and free games. I can confirm both Max Payne 3 and LA Noire are still working well in 3-D.

Post by **Lundamyrstrollet** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:11 pm

Please let this be DX11, have heard Rumours about DX12 and Vulcan "Vulcan is set because Googles new Streaming Client... screw!"
When there it be an DX11 Renderer, this Game will nothing less than the best 3D Vision Experience ever, and a hole new Open World Experience imho, so i beg for our all 3D merci that this one will fixable!!!

P.S. My thought is: DX12 with an 3D Option like the Tomb Raider Games has(SbS,OaU)... Rockstar knows that...Nothing to do with 3D vision

Post by **Shift-E** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:17 am

Well its up for pre-load, just a measly 109.47 GB

Had to clear some space off the SSD for this behemoth. I installed it and took a look at the files, didn't see anything that might tip off DX11 inclusion. Guess we will have to wait until Tuesday to see our 3D fate with this game. A bunch of PC hands on previews came out, but no mention of API. Some interesting info for PC folks though...

https://www.pcgamer.com/red-dead-redemp ... t-special/

https://www.polygon.com/2019/11/1/20942 ... mpressions

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/11/01 ... 11699744=1

Post by **Chtiblue** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:40 am

Before buying it and preload it, I'm waiting for DX 11 confirmation (it should because of Win7) but even more no Vulkain inside plzzz!!!

I'm stunned no previewers mentioned it at all...

Post by **zig11727** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:13 pm

No purchasing till I know it's DX11 and even if works on Windows 7 it still could be DX12 as I recall Microsoft has a subset DX12 which works on Windows 7.

Post by **DJ-RK** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:17 pm

I already have this bought, pre-loaded, and ready to start fixing day one if everything aligns. Perhaps was a bit hasty of a move, but it's already been reported that it's using DirectX so Vulkan exclusivity should not be the case, and I feel like R* wouldn't be foolish enough to limit their market to DX12 only, so I think it was a safe bet. Worst case is if it is Dx12, that doesn't mean a fix won't be possible in the future, but we've all waited this long for a RDR game on PC so we can play it in 3D, here's hoping we won't have to wait even longer.

Post by **thebigdogma** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:37 pm

Looking on the Epic Store - the minimum spec is set pretty low (Win7/8 GBR/GF 770), so I would think that it absolutely has to support DX11.

Post by **Chtiblue** » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:43 pm

DJ-RK wrote:I already have this bought, pre-loaded, and ready to start fixing day one if everything aligns. Perhaps was a bit hasty of a move, but it's already been reported that it's using DirectX so Vulkan exclusivity should not be the case, and I feel like R* wouldn't be foolish enough to limit their market to DX12 only, so I think it was a safe bet. Worst case is if it is Dx12, that doesn't mean a fix won't be possible in the future, but we've all waited this long for a RDR game on PC so we can play it in 3D, here's hoping we won't have to wait even longer.

Agree with you DJ-RK, Rockstar are not foolish with this golden Egg

Post by **amorphis** » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:37 am

That's some great news and I agree that it will be DX11 compatible. Good luck with the fix DJ-RK.

Post by **Chtiblue** » Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:19 am

Some rumors are saying no DX11, only choice between Vulkan or DX12...
Really really hope this is bullshit

Post by **lohan** » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:55 am

I've got some news and unfortunately those are not exactly pleasing...

https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/red-dea ... 50718.html

The link above is a preview for RDR2 done (just a few days ago as it seems) by the popular German magazine Gamestar. They played the game ("an almost final build") during a visit at Rockstar's Munich office. In this preview they focus on RDR2's technical details.

Here are the most important facts done in "bullet points"

- They emphasize that 2 aspects really surprised them. The first being the fact that the game seems to be limited to 120fps. Then the graphics menu consisted of options for DirectX12 and Vulkan only.
(They don't forget to mention that both of these points still could change for the final version but are definitely worth mentioning).

- They say that when they first discussed a PC version for RDR2 a year ago they thought DX12 or Vulkan to be in the realm of possible but rather unlikely.

- First hints for Vulkan seemed to be the Stadia Version of the game. Google's streaming service uses Linux and is based on Vulkan. So every Stadia title needs to also offer Vulkan.

- They say the Stadia version for RDR2 could be the very reason why Rockstar opted for Vulkan. Even aside from Stadia "low-level APIs" (like DX12 or Vulkan) are absolutely convenient for a title like RDR2.

- Then they say that DX12/Vulkan's main purpose is an optimized CPU workload in comparison to older APIs like OpenGL or DX11.

- Although they couldn't do a direct comparison (as there only was DX12 and Vulkan available in the extensive graphics menu) they say even with these low-level APIs the PC version of RDR2 performed quite well...which is not a given.

- While the few available Vulkan-titles perform quite well this hasn't been always the case with DX12 although the tendency lately (CoD: Modern Warfare) is rather positive...

The rest of the article is focused on the 120fps limitation which they say could -of course - also change with the final build.

Post by **Chtiblue** » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:59 am

In a few hours we will know if we are doomed...

Post by **DJ-RK** » Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:05 am

Well poop... the omission of a graphics API is not something that would be patched in between a pre-release beta and a release build, a lot more work and effort would is needed to go into that so I doubt that would happen at all at this stage. Dx12 3dMigoto is the only hope now.

Post by **amorphis** » Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:54 am

Damn, looks like I won't be buying it soon. Still no reshade official dx12/vulcan version or 3dmigoto. I was hoping at least I could use reshade with depth3d until 3dmigoto catches up.

Post by **Chtiblue** » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:29 pm

Yeap it is a drama, no reshade, no 3Dmigoto for the best game for years…
Not playable in 2D, I bought the PS4 pro for this one last year, played 2 hours and no possible to play in ugly flat 2D, so I sold my PS4 and the game the nextday waiting for the PC version but we're doomed…

DX12 & Vulkan not playable in 3D, 3D gaming is in very bad shape for now…

We need Dx12 3Dmigoto or we are going down in few time

Post by **Blacksmith60** » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:37 pm

@Chtiblue, I feel sorry for you, and for all of us, this is a day of sorrow...

Post by **Lundamyrstrollet** » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:55 pm

New NV Game ready Driver 441.12 for RDR 2 and NfS, so lets wait until the final release...

Post by **DJ-RK** » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:22 pm

Well, this isn't the solution we were hoping for, but it's better than nothing. Apparently ReShade got an update today (just in the nick of time) that provides "better" Dx12 support, and experimental Vulkan support, so perhaps we can get their depth buffer 3D working here.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comme ... tter_dx12/

I wonder if any of their developments could help our 3DMigoto devs with getting Dx12, and dare I dream, Vulkan support working as well.

Post by **Chtiblue** » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:05 pm

Could someone could check ReShade DX12 on Rage 2 for example?

It's also said that Reshade 4.4 fixes crashes in UWP games, so we could check it on GOW and State of Decay 2?

Post by **amorphis** » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:03 pm

I tried Rage 2 before with Reshade's one of the alpha 4.4 versions and it didn't work for me. Just now tried with the official 4.4.1 and it still doesn't work, no hooking, run from the reshade bat file for vulkan.

Post by **Chtiblue** » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:51 pm

Same here with Rage 2, no hooking

We need to test with some Dx12 games

Post by **Lundamyrstrollet** » Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:34 am

DX12 and Vulkan only in the Release Version.... f* it