[Guide] Win 10 v1903+, gfx driver v430.39+ 3DV Fix

[bo3bber]

Thanks a lot RAGEdemon, I did not know about Liquid Ctl. Just for info, I was also concerned about their data collection, but in new version (still beta) they allow you to disable it and I have verified with TCP/IP monitor software: with previous versions there was a lot of connections back to NZXT, now there is not a single one if you disable the data collection option. Regarding performance, I guess is not the best one, yep, but still they have improved it somewhat.

Thanks a lot for your input and experience on ReShade and with sharpening, I'll test it! A pitty that they use same dll and that the Nvidia implementation does not work for 3D...

Regarding this hack in this topic, for me it seems I must install drivers through 3DFM otherwise it works but with problems.

In recent versions of 3Dmigoto, pretty much anything above 1.3.10, DarkStarSword and I put in some effort to make 3Dmigoto play nice with Reshade. Be sure to try those newer versions.

It is easy enough to get both working on the same game, because Reshade has a mechanism to allow you to rename the DLLs to dxgi.dll and it will then load as well. The tricky part was making sure that our hooks do not interfere with each other. AFAIK, this is working correctly in the most recent 3Dmigoto.

[cyrilp]

Hi, it's a dch type driver indeed, is that an issue ?

[cyrilp]

it was a dch issue indeed, i have installed a standard driver and it's now working

[schwing]

Thanks for letting us know. I wasn't sure if you could switch to Standard as I haven't tried DCH. I've updated the guide anyway.

[cyrilp]

the take ownership doesn't work for me, i'm using this instead:

https://winaero.com/blog/how-to-take-ow ... indows-10/

[mbuddha]

I'm not sure what to do here - No Nvidia driver install package will allow me to install a Standard graphics driver. The only ones that work are the DCH drivers.
I receive this error with non DCH drivers



I have W10 64 1903 and GTX 1080 driver 441.12

Also I didn't have a folder called nv_dispi.inf within C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository

I created the folder and added the downloaded .dll files.

I'm so puzzled why my setup is so completely not conducive to these guides at all lol

Oh finally I'm not sure how to actually install the Nvidia 3D Vision driver itself? I installed 3DVission 266.58, I can't find a newer one??
3D Fix Manager says Stereo 3D Not Detected...

I'm baffled

[schwing]

    AFAIK you won't get the 3DV driver installed if you don't have the Standard gfx driver. Also the guide doesn't apply to the 425.31 driver since that one already has the 3D Vision driver in it. Lastly, creating the folder won't do anything. Either there's some other folder with at least the two DLL's in it or it doesn't appear for DCH. Idk which.

[mbuddha]

I was trying the other method with the older driver, but I'm installed with 441.12 via GeForce Experience.

Also regarding the other method, I downloaded 3D_Driver_Tool_V1.10_by_LOSTI.zip but I can't open, Windows says it's invalid. I promise everything else and many games have been working great on my PC before this...

So, if I have to get the 3DV driver elsewhere, where do I get it?

[mbuddha]

So trying to install 441.12 directly non DCH and I get the same error.

I found the 3DVision driver here
https://www.mediafire.com/file/x2lhbeqa ... D.rar/file

[WickedScav]

So trying to install 441.12 directly non DCH and I get the same error.

You cannot install the standard driver on top of the DCH driver. You need to reset your windows driver system.

* get latest DDU
* reboot in safe mode
* remove internet connection physically (very important step!)
* select "nvidia" & "clean and restart" in DDU
* after reboot install any standard driver you like BEFORE connecting the internet again and you will be set (installing DCH will not work anymore at this point)

[schwing]

<Deleted>

[typhoon]

441.12 confirmed working

i had some problems with 3dvision emitter not installed, i had to reinstall it after applying the dll modification in safe mode.

i used the modded 3dvision installer within the losti folder.

3dfixmanager install doesn't works for me, it doesn't ask and i don't know how to let it start manually.

i've tried with 441.08 before but i had swapped eyes with red text on screen, even in nvidia setup, don't know why, fortunately now it's working, i hope i do not have to update drivers again for a while!!!

"easy anticheat" games refuses to start with that dll, so there's to restore original files all the times for those games.

[mbuddha]

So trying to install 441.12 directly non DCH and I get the same error.

You cannot install the standard driver on top of the DCH driver. You need to reset your windows driver system.

* get latest DDU
* reboot in safe mode
* remove internet connection physically (very important step!)
* select "nvidia" & "clean and restart" in DDU
* after reboot install any standard driver you like BEFORE connecting the internet again and you will be set (installing DCH will not work anymore at this point)

I actually got stereo 3D to work properly with the DCH 441.12 driver.

However I followed your instructions (thanks) and now the non DCH 441.12 driver is installed. 3D Fix Manager works a little better. The two games I was testing (Dirt 4 and DE:HR) still produce the same mixed results, both of which have profiles/fixes in 3D Fix. I'm using my old projector and haven't done 3D gaming in many years. Time to tinker with some more games and see what happens. Hoping for results in Outer Worlds

One issue I'm having is that I can use the Hotkeys to increase convergence but I can't reduce it at all for some reason, two diff games

[DJ-RK]

So I installed 411.12 yesterday, had 3D up and running perfectly (and no iCUE issues this time, so good job on solving that issue), but I ended up disabling 3D through the control panel (needed to for RDR2 to not bleed white light in DX12 mode), and now no matter how I try reenabling it (control panel, 3DFM, using registry changes) I always get the red text overlay in games. Unfortunately I don't think removing the red text is a viable solution because either the glasses don't work or there's some timing issue because I basically see both images through both eyes, so I guess I'll be going back to 425.31 once again since 411.12 didn't really bring any improvements in the end (lost fps in BL3, despite supposed optimizations).

[Pauldusler]

So I installed 411.12 yesterday, had 3D up and running perfectly (and no iCUE issues this time, so good job on solving that issue), but I ended up disabling 3D through the control panel (needed to for RDR2 to not bleed white light in DX12 mode), and now no matter how I try reenabling it (control panel, 3DFM, using registry changes) I always get the red text overlay. Unfortunately I don't think removing the red text is a viable solution because either the glasses don't work or there's some timing issue because I basically see both images through both eyes, so I guess I'll be going back to 425.31 once again since 411.12 didn't really bring any improvements in the end (lost fps in BL3, despite supposed optimizations).

Hi DJ-RK

which Windows 10 version are you using?
For me on 1809 and 411.12 the red text overlay is shown every time if "Preferred RefreshRate" is set to "Highest Available" in Nvidia Profile Inspector. The monitor runs on 144 Hz then in any stereo 3D games I tried (the maximum supported refresh rate of my monitor). If set to the default value "Use application setting" games run with 120Hz again and the red text overlay disappears. DDU didn't help for fixing this - it seems the setting is not properly disabled in 3D mode any more because if in 3D Vision mode "Highest available" should be automatically overriden with "stereo refresh rate" (=120 Hz) then. Probably something which was broken due to Nvidia dropping official 3D Vision driver support.

[DJ-RK]

which Windows 10 version are you using?
For me on 1809 and 411.12 the red text overlay is shown every time if "Preferred RefreshRate" is set to "Highest Available" in Nvidia Profile Inspector. The monitor runs on 144 Hz then in any stereo 3D games I tried (the maximum supported refresh rate of my monitor). If set to the default value "Use application setting" games run with 120Hz again and the red text overlay disappears. DDU didn't help for fixing this - it seems the setting is not properly disabled in 3D mode any more because if in 3D Vision mode "Highest available" should be automatically overriden with "stereo refresh rate" (=120 Hz) then. Probably something which was broken due to Nvidia dropping official 3D Vision driver support.

I'm on 1903. I didn't think to checking the refresh rate setting you mentioned, but I did go and change my monitor technology to ULMB, since someone mentioned on Discord that helped solve his red text problem (didn't for me).

I'm back on 425.31 now (and reclaimed a few fps in BL3), and have done enough driver juggling in the past few days that I'm just going to stay put for now (had issues with getting 411.12 working with 3D since I was being forced to install the DCH drivers and had to find out on my own how to get the standard driver to install, which is funny since others had the same issue and a solution was posted almost right after I sorted it out for myself on my own).

[mbuddha]

I got it working a while back, so far Dirt 4 looks pretty good, GTA5 looks amazing, DE:HR I need to remove most of the HUD I think. Have some more to try out. Watched Gravity 3D also.

Win10 64 1903
Geforce 411.12 non DCH drivers

[Marin3D]

Thanks Schwing,

I tested the 1903 & 411.12 combo & your fix

It seems to work for some games, i tested Tomb Raider Rise&Shadow, a plague tale innocence which all worked. However both Witcher 3 and AC origins show a black screen with or without 3D fix manager. All games work in my win10 64bit 1803 with 425.31 boot.

8700k, 2080ti build.

Thanks for the hard work!

[mbuddha]

Thanks Schwing,

I tested the 1903 & 411.12 combo & your fix

However both Witcher 3 and AC origins show a black screen with or without 3D fix manager.

Same here on Witcher 3 and that config

[Dark_saiyens]

I am bored to try to fix 3d vision on 1903 it is buggy ans i cant lunch games
I am gonna make a dual boot.
Do u think is it better to install windows 7 or windows 10 1809 ?

[InvisibleArrow]

First of all, a big thanks to you schwing, for providing this fix!

I'm pleased to inform that this is working beautifully on Windows 10 1909 (out on 12th Nov) and Nvidia Driver 441.20 + 3D Vision driver restored through 3D Fix Manager.
Prior to your DLL file fixes, several DX11 games (Witcher 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Shadow of the Tomb Raider) were giving a blank screen or garbled display when started in 3D.
After the fix, all of these games work as before in 3D!

I went ahead and tested several other games (old and new) with these fixes and pleased to let you know that all of them work fine as they did before with Windows 10 1809.
Here's a complete list of games that I tested with the fix:

Witcher 1
Witcher 2
Witcher 3 (with HelixMod fix)

Trine 1
Trine 2
Trine 3
Trine 4 (with HelixMod fix)

Batman Arkham Asylum
Batman Arkham City
Batman Arkham Origins
Batman Arkham Knight (with HelixMod fix)

Rise of the Tomb Raider (Works only in DX11 mode. DX12 with 3D on/windowed mode crashes on startup. This used to work in DX12 3D on/windowed mode in Windows 10 1809 and Driver 436.15)
Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Works only in DX11 mode. DX12 never worked even on older Windows versions)

My system specs in brief:
Intel Core i7 8700K, Asus Z370-E Gaming Motherboard, 32 GB RAM, MSI RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio

[Skawen]

Good to hear that 1909 is working correctly. Now I will not be afraid to upgrade

[mbuddha]

No luck here with Witcher 3 and W10 1909, still black screen like on 1903. Using 441.20.
Dirt 4 was working but now gives an error trying to run, and an error reinstalling 3D fix.
Deus Ex HR still working good, and GTA5
Tried LAra Croft and Guardian of Light which I remember working well in the past and it's still good in 3D using the fix
OP guide removed now.

Edit: Actually I had lost my GTA5 3D - I rolled back Windows to 1903 but that didn't do it so I rolled back my geforce driver to 441.12 from .20
That worked (GTA5) so I'm going to try W10 1909 again and I'll edit again with results

Edit2: GTA5 works in 3D with 441,12 and W10 1909

I don't have the nv_dispi... folder in Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository. although I have those files in a similar folder nvmdi.inf_.... So I'm going to try again

[bo3bber]

No luck here with Witcher 3 and W10 1909, still black screen like on 1903. Using 441.20.
Dirt 4 was working but now gives an error trying to run, and an error reinstalling 3D fix.
Deus Ex HR still working good, and GTA5
Tried LAra Croft and Guardian of Light which I remember working well in the past and it's still good in 3D using the fix
OP guide removed now.

New thread location: https://www.mtbs3d.com/phpBB/viewtopic. ... 05&t=23452

[schwing]

After thinking about it, I decided to revive this thread and remove the other one.

[mbuddha]

So I updated again to 441.20 to make sure I'm doing the guide 100%
The folder name I have (in Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository)
is not nv_dispi...although it is similar: nvmdi.inf_....

So I replaced the DLLs in there. Now with The Witcher 3 no more black screen but I get the red error message "trying to run stereoscopic 3D in non stereo mode" - and the game screen vibrating , my game is set to 720p which is my projector @ 120hz and other games do work (GTA5 does with this driver now, DE:HR still works, Dirt 4 works). Using Windows 1909.

I'm almost there with W3 but not sure what mode it thinks is wrong. When I go to borderless mode the projector switches to 120hz, the screen stops vibrating but it's not in 3D.

Also I tried to install the 3D Fix for KCD - I get an error that says I need to run 3D Fix with Admin rights but it still says that when I do run the program as Admin

[schwing]

    I used both the DCH and Standard gfx driver types. I've only seen nv_disp.... The red text overlay might be a resolution hz issue that may be fixed with refresh_rate in d3dx.ini, but I'm not sure as I have never seen the issue for my display. Either way, I'll add that folder name to the guide. Thanks!

[mbuddha]

    I used both the DCH and Standard gfx driver types. I've only seen nv_disp.... The red text overlay might be a resolution hz issue that may be fixed with refresh_rate in d3dx.ini, but I'm not sure as I have never seen the issue for my display. Either way, I'll add that folder name to the guide. Thanks!

Well happy to provide my results but I don't think I have it running correctly yet. While some older games function in stereo 3D, I have having the same problem with Witcher 3 and the new Outer Worlds Fix.
"Warning : attempting to run stereoscopic 3D in non-stereo display mode"
Screen vibrates, and my projector stays at 59hz, no stereo 3D

For now I'm going to go back to the 425.31 driver and see if that works

[Robert256]

Hi Schwing,

thank you for this great fix! I'm running 441.20 now with 3D Vision finally working again on Win10 1903!
I have simplified the whole approach a bit, by replacing the original files in the 441.20 installer by your files and pre-patching the 3D Vision dlls as described by Losti.
So now you can install the driver the normal way, without the need of taking ownership or patching files.

I have put the method here, in case anyone wants to try it without the need for patching files themselves:
https://www.imaging3d.com/3DVision_441. ... _64bit.zip
Instructions are in the readme.txt file

N.B. This file only works for the regular driver 441.20-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe, not for the DCH version

Cheers!

Btw. I just found out there is also a 426.00 3D Vision driver, in the Cuda 10.1 Update 2 package, probably the very last version, but haven't had the time to check if it contains something new in comparison to the 425 versions.

[bo3bber]

DX12 stereo doesn't kick in from at least 1709 (at least for Shadow of the Tomb Raider)
This requires a different solution than the DX11 fix

One data point here, on an Win 10 1803, Driver 430.00 setup, I can run the Shadow of the Tomb Raider Trial in DX12 without any fatal errors. The stereo itself is incorrect, black in one eye, which suggests needing some profile flags. I did not dig further into, just noting that stereo kicked in for me using DX12.

After thinking about it, I decided to revive this thread and remove the other one.

What was the story there? I think I missed something.

[mbuddha]

Hi Schwing,

thank you for this great fix! I'm running 441.20 now with 3D Vision finally working again on Win10 1903!
I have simplified the whole approach a bit, by replacing the original files in the 441.20 installer by your files and pre-patching the 3D Vision dlls as described by Losti.
So now you can install the driver the normal way, without the need of taking ownership or patching files.

I have put the method here, in case anyone wants to try it without the need for patching files themselves:
https://www.imaging3d.com/3DVision_441. ... _64bit.zip
Instructions are in the readme.txt file

N.B. This file only works for the regular driver 441.20-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe, not for the DCH version

Cheers!

Thanks for creating this, and to the original creator Schwing as well.

I followed your easy instructions but still I have no luck with certain games, namely W3 and TOW.
I don't know why but I always get the nvmdi.inf_.. not the nv_dispi... Folder
I can't figure it what is different I install the non DCH 441.20-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe driver
W10 1903 Geforce GTX 1080

I am using a Viewsonic PJD6531w which as I stated does play many games in 3D well, especially in the past, but it has a messed up native 1280x800 resolution and the games I'm having trouble with start up the projector in that res @ 59hz with the nvidia green message AND the red error, screen vibrating, 3D vision USB device bright green, and then I can force the desktop into 1280x720p@120hz and the image just looks normal in the game, 1280x720 and even 120hz but not in 3D, no messages.
I will add that the projector is capable of playing games in 3D with their res set to 1280x720@120hz even though the projector stretches the picture to 1280x800.
(I already found a bunch of necro threads all about this projector so there's no reason for anyone to go through the hassle of pointing those out to me)
I guess I'll have to give up on those games, just finish out GTA5 and get rid of this thing finally.

[schwing]

I don't know why but I always get the nvmdi.inf_.. not the nv_dispi... Folder

    Are you installing on a laptop? Researching this, I can't find a reason for why this folder name changes.

After thinking about it, I decided to revive this thread and remove the other one.

What was the story there? I think I missed something.

    The thread is being linked on the old forum against my request, and linking to the now-duplicate thread here means both threads are being linked externally. It was to have the community's best interests in mind, but after thinking about it, I doubt it will matter. Also, I read your PM, but I need time to think about it before responding.

[mbuddha]

I don't know why but I always get the nvmdi.inf_.. not the nv_dispi... Folder

    Are you installing on a laptop? Researching this, I can't find a reason for why this folder name changes.

Desktop
Intel i7-8700
16G Ram
W10x64 1903
Geforce GTX 1080
DirectX is 12 in dxdiag - does that matter?

Finally I remembered I have CUDA 9.0 installed - but I can't uninstall it for some reason (even with the graphics driver uninstalled) - maybe that has something to do with it

I will mention that with the v425.31 driver that I get the nv_dispi... Folder - however I don't think this fix is necessary for that version (which I still have the same problems) and I think I tried with and without the fix on that driver version

[schwing]

Anything older than 430.39 doesn't need it.

[Marin3D]

I can confirm what InvisibleArrow mentioned a few posts back.

Just tested Robert256`s patch and can confirm that the games having trouble with the 441.12 (mentioned earlier) work with the 441.20 version. I did use a previous version of 3D Fix Manager 1.72 and tested before and after the 1909 update. So the Witcher 3 works again

I will test a few other games when i have the time.

[vidalsh68]

Hi, under w10 1909

I´ve used DDU to clean and instal 441.20 and 3DFixManager to instal 3d driver.

Into Nvidia Control Panel, 3d stereo test doesn´t works, shows test but no 3d.

3d Movies are showed as 3d into cyberlink Power DVD, but does,nt show 3d in potplayer.

A Plague Tale works perfect in 3d. Great game to test 3d.

Gears 5 need activate CMU into 3DFixManager or black screen. With CMU works well.

Battlefront II CMU is needed or there will be black screen too.

Mafia III and Darksiders III doesn´t wants to run in 3d mode.

This is my 1909 expreience.

[Robert256]

@Losti:
Thanks for your great work!
I'm working on making the patching procedure even simpler and found a more compact alternative for rcedit for patching the DLLs with a new version number.
If you are interested, you can download the tool here: https://www.imaging3d.com/SetDllVersion.zip

[Robert256]

I can confirm what InvisibleArrow mentioned a few posts back.

Just tested Robert256`s patch and can confirm that the games having trouble with the 441.12 (mentioned earlier) work with the 441.20 version. I did use a previous version of 3D Fix Manager 1.72 and tested before and after the 1909 update. So the Witcher 3 works again

I will test a few other games when i have the time.

I cannot stress enough that the patches were created by Schwing and Losti, I just packed them together!
But cool that they work!

[skyrimer]

Hi Schwing,

thank you for this great fix! I'm running 441.20 now with 3D Vision finally working again on Win10 1903!
I have simplified the whole approach a bit, by replacing the original files in the 441.20 installer by your files and pre-patching the 3D Vision dlls as described by Losti.
So now you can install the driver the normal way, without the need of taking ownership or patching files.

I have put the method here, in case anyone wants to try it without the need for patching files themselves:
https://www.imaging3d.com/3DVision_441. ... _64bit.zip
Instructions are in the readme.txt file

N.B. This file only works for the regular driver 441.20-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe, not for the DCH version

Cheers!

Btw. I just found out there is also a 426.00 3D Vision driver, in the Cuda 10.1 Update 2 package, probably the very last version, but haven't had the time to check if it contains something new in comparison to the 425 versions.

So I'm on windows 10 1809 and have tried this method and worked great. I didn't even DDU, did as explained in the readme and 3d vision installed properly. 3d vision test works but games show warning message with red letters, so I changed refresh rate on nvidia inspector to
"use the 3d application setting" and that fixed the message on all the games I've tested for now (vampyr, shadow of the tomb raider, aragami). A bit annoying to do that on every game but hey I'm on 440.20 with 3d vision enabled so i'm not complaining. Huge thanks to Losti, Schwig and Robert256 for this fix.

[Chtiblue]

Thanks Rober256 you repack works fine