[REQ] Capturing movies in crosseyed vision.

Post by **Likay** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:18 pm

Maybe this one could be answered by Freke (or of course anybody else).

I have seen your movies for crosseyed viewing on youtube and i'm curious on how to make them. I know some people have trouble with it but the crosseyed method was the first contact i had with viewing stereo. And it was before i even knew about Nvidia and their stereodriver.

Crosseyed viewing:
Advantages: None besides that no extra HW or SW is needed. It might be a good way of showing how S-3D looks.
Worst backsides: Eyestrain if not using very small frames. Some people just can't do it how much they try. But i think a good tutorial might help.

Cheers

Post by **sharky** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:09 am

i am not shure about this, but i think that you have to set nvidia drivers to dual output, record the gameplay with fraps or similar, and then resize it with a movie editing tool.

bye

sharky

Post by **Freke1** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:30 am

It's just a lot of screenshots put together. In Battlefield 2 You sometimes can record the battles and play them back at 1/20 speed which makes it easier to take a lot of screenshots. I use Win Movie Maker to assemble them into a video.

Post by **sharky** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:34 am

WOW.. does it mean that you press 20000 times the "print" button?

Post by **Likay** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 3:42 am

Ok... Now i really respect you! Freke... That's some awesome effort you put in it..
Actually i wondered if there might be a way of capturing stereo. But you probably made some researches already.

Anyway: Thanks!

Cheers

Post by **Freke1** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:03 am

Making movies is great fun

Post by **sharky** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:27 am

isn't there a better way then pressing 2000000 times the print button and then in a way reassemble it? maybe with a software wich can take 2 monitors at the same time.. wich softwares have you tested freke?

Post by **Freke1** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:12 am

only Fraps

Post by **sharky** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:17 am

and for fraps there is no way of registering both monitors? maybe we could write to the sotware developer if they could att that feature..

bye

sharky

Post by **Likay** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 7:41 pm

Dang it!... i found a solution (i thought) but the real easy solution went away quickly

.. Figured that i could record both outputs from the graph-card with 2 vcr's and then edit them to one vid, side by side... Forgot that there are only one output for tv. lol
I've found VGA-to-TV-adapters relatively cheap so i might give it a shot anyway.

The advantage should be that i get a high fps in recorded games (which's not the fact with fraps).

Disadvantage... Bad quality caused by first converting vga-tv, then recording with vcr's and then recording the movies back to the computer via the tv-card.

Then software to make crosseyed vision movies, Anyone know about software that makes what i want? (Both left- and righteye-videos in one, side by side). Would spare me some hazzle if anyone know.
However i think the quality will do anyway. The screens can't be too big either.

Thank you!

Cheers!

Post by **sharky** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:25 am

arn't there any dvd HD recorders wich can be connected to the pc?

Post by **Freke1** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:06 am

The stereoscopic player from here can play separate left and right videos simultaniously to create 3D:
http://www.3dtv.at/Downloads/Index_en.aspx
There's a 3D movie maker here:
http://stereo.jpn.org/eng/index.html

Post by **sharky** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:47 am

freke is it a problem for you to post a version fo the video with left and right eye swapped? i mean not crosseyed? i would liek to test something...

thank you

Post by **Freke1** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:42 pm

sorry I don't have that but You can swap the eyes in the Stereoscopic player.

Post by **sharky** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:04 pm

oh ok thats good.. can you post the avi fil eplease?

Post by **Freke1** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:13 pm

download link:
http://www.3d.wep.dk/3dvideo.html
(19Mb)
it's what I got - deleted the screenshots I used making it

Post by **Likay** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:25 pm

Thank you Freke!!!!!

I work alot this week and i'll probably will not have time to try the things out. But first thing latest this weekend!

I do have two vcr's for the moment. I plan to make movies captured with 800x600 and merge them to 1 file. Depending on the size of the file i probably have to decrease the resolution (1600x600 might be too much and too difficult view crosseyed unless sitting quite at a long distance from the monitor

) . The old fashioned TMPGEnc works wonder with filesizes too.

Thanks again!

Cheers

Post by **sharky** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:56 am

thank you! i amdownloading.. i make some tests and post the results...

bye

igor

Post by **Freke1** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:08 pm

I found a way to record crosseyed game videos. It's not perfect but it works.
Here's how:
Disable Nvidia's 3D driver - use Dragons TuningNSD.exe - use Dragons Hook OpenStereo.exe - use Free Screen Recorder (instead of fraps) - record over/under game video - close Dragons 2 programs - enable Nvidia's 3D driver - play recorded gamevideo in Stereoscopic Player (side by side) - capture side by side video with ZD soft Screen Recorder - done.
During the making the aspect ratio get wacked but the endresult is good.
All programs are free (edit: no now the "Free" Screen Recorder program wants me to buy a license).
Here's the result:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfxoeAh1N2U

Post by **Likay** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:27 am

I might give that a shot too. Have another way of going but it's more difficult though.
Thanks!

cheers

Post by **LukePC1** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:08 am

I don't see much advantage in this other capturing program. The refresh rate (fps) is still very bad - maybe better than FRAPs, but not very much...

I don't think that it's good enough to realy promote S-3D

Post by **Masterkong** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:19 am

Likay wrote: Worst backsides: Eyestrain if not using very small frames. Some people just can't do it how much they try. But i think a good tutorial might help.

umm.. the eyestrain comes from .. umm.. "workout pain"? in the beginning you eye muscles aren't used to be used the way you do when you do cross-eyed viewing, but it goes away eventually. i printed A0 3d images at my workplace.. you had to take a few steps back.. but my god it was cool...

about 5% of the world population cannot see 3d, the freehand way..

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